Big Brother UK
May 18, 2000 08:41 AM
By the computer I''m sitting at there is the 11 May issue of "Computing" newspaper, and the main article on the front page is about how the UK Government is trying to force through legislation that would allow them access to UK ISP servers and also to intercept e-mail in the UK.
Not only that, but they want British ISPs to pay most/all of the enormous cost of doing so (£34 Million).
I think this totally takes the piss, what do you reckon?
George.
"Who says computer games affect kids, imagine if PacMan affected us as kids, we'd all sit around in a darkened room munching pills and listening to repetitive music....uh oh!"
George. F"Who says computer games affect kids, imagine if PacMan affected us as kids, we'd all sit around in a darkened room munching pills and listening to repetitive music....uh oh!"
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May 18, 2000 08:59 AM
Um doesn''t that constitute a violation of the Internet Privacy Act signed by Clinton in ''95?
Frankly I think the UK will not pass this law...too many international affairs.
Also UK''s E-commerce industry will be furious, as no one will want to deal with them anymore under such a law. Bad for business > bad for the UK''s economy (at least a small part of it).
We can rant about it, but I don''t see it happening.
Frankly I think the UK will not pass this law...too many international affairs.
Also UK''s E-commerce industry will be furious, as no one will want to deal with them anymore under such a law. Bad for business > bad for the UK''s economy (at least a small part of it).
We can rant about it, but I don''t see it happening.
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May 18, 2000 09:06 AM
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May 18, 2000 09:15 AM
Sounds like bollucks (sp?) to me. Am I using that word correctly?
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100
May 18, 2000 09:31 AM
It doesn''t violate the internet privacy act because it''s not in america, duh.
Geo, yes that really sucks. You might want to download the freeware encryption program PGP (Pretty Good Protection). It''s almost completely unbreakable. I say almost because a) no one has done it yet, and b) never say completley unbreakable when it comes to encryption. That mistake has been made too many times in the past. I don''t think there is a website for it because there was a big stink made over it a couple of years ago about people outside america downloading it. The guy who made PGP was charged with illegal arms dealing. Apparently encryption is a weapon and can hurt someone (read sarcastically). But, I think this was all cleared up because I have a demo disk from a PC magazine that has it on it. Sounds like it''s okay to use it. You might be able to find one floating around on a usenet somewhere.
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Geo, yes that really sucks. You might want to download the freeware encryption program PGP (Pretty Good Protection). It''s almost completely unbreakable. I say almost because a) no one has done it yet, and b) never say completley unbreakable when it comes to encryption. That mistake has been made too many times in the past. I don''t think there is a website for it because there was a big stink made over it a couple of years ago about people outside america downloading it. The guy who made PGP was charged with illegal arms dealing. Apparently encryption is a weapon and can hurt someone (read sarcastically). But, I think this was all cleared up because I have a demo disk from a PC magazine that has it on it. Sounds like it''s okay to use it. You might be able to find one floating around on a usenet somewhere.
"YOU APES WANNA LIVE FOREVER?" Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein
"Who wants to live forever?" Queen
"Never trust a bald barber" me
B^)
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May 18, 2000 09:33 AM
Guess what! I found it. www.pgp.com. I guess that was a little obvious.
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"Who wants to live forever?" Queen
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122
May 18, 2000 09:37 AM
Hah the UK government is welcome to Read all the spam that I get in my mail box,
May 18, 2000 09:48 AM
Part of the legislation was that you would be required by law to provide encryption keys etc to the police if they request it, and you could get 2 years in jail for refusing.
I think the legislation is bollocks, Nick. Not only is it an invasion of privacy, it will cost UK companies lots of money and hastle, but i agree (optimistically) that the law won''t be passed cause it''s a load of bollocks.
Problem is, UK politians don''t know S*** about computers, so it would be relatively easy to persuade them that such a law is a good way of reducing internet crime. However the internet is international, what''s to stop an English guy dumping his illegal porn on, and using E-mail hosted by, a foreign server. It seems to me (though I''m no expert and I may be wrong) that the only people hastled by this law is legitimate UK companies.
George.
"Who says computer games affect kids, imagine if PacMan affected us as kids, we'd all sit around in a darkened room munching pills and listening to repetitive music....uh oh!"
I think the legislation is bollocks, Nick. Not only is it an invasion of privacy, it will cost UK companies lots of money and hastle, but i agree (optimistically) that the law won''t be passed cause it''s a load of bollocks.
Problem is, UK politians don''t know S*** about computers, so it would be relatively easy to persuade them that such a law is a good way of reducing internet crime. However the internet is international, what''s to stop an English guy dumping his illegal porn on, and using E-mail hosted by, a foreign server. It seems to me (though I''m no expert and I may be wrong) that the only people hastled by this law is legitimate UK companies.
George.
"Who says computer games affect kids, imagine if PacMan affected us as kids, we'd all sit around in a darkened room munching pills and listening to repetitive music....uh oh!"
George. F"Who says computer games affect kids, imagine if PacMan affected us as kids, we'd all sit around in a darkened room munching pills and listening to repetitive music....uh oh!"
May 18, 2000 10:04 AM
Webspynner_99. Actually PGP is not as secure as you think! There was a lawsuit a while back that involved PGP (indirectly) and the end result was that the FBI could be granted the ability to decode all information secured by PGP with NAI’s help. After that there was some stink about US Agencies passing laws in regards to high encryption commercial software, but I do believe that it passed.. So I''m gonna have to look into it again. Believe me when I say that Network Associates (new owners of PGP) are not going to be on your side in a pinch and WILL side with US/International law enforcement agencies! You would be better off developing or downloading a noncommercial based encryption software because they would not have the same constraints that commercial software has.
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May 18, 2000 10:20 AM
To be honest if the UK government decided to take the trouble to read someones mail. They wouldnt let a small thing like encryption stop them anyway. If it was that important they would soon decrypt it.
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